Woof Woof. I just visited an 88 yr old witness lady and commented that song 142 was pretty jumpy and that I heard people were swinging and swaying to it. Her comment? With a big smile, "How could you not?"
So, not all the old sisters are as ready to jump ship as the 11 in the OP. That's why I'm calling BS. Join the pack and win a prize. Eternal life in a Paradise game refuge. The dog will lay down with the lamb.
Slimboy I'm with you. I was waiting for the marching band to come through the living room with a banner saying, "I'm never donating again, how about you?" OP reads like something Goebbels would write, a little bit too much to be 100% accurate. Oh well, we can dream.
That sister has been around enough to know these ass hat clowns are blowhards and really what can they do to her? Make her stop pioneering? I doubt that would bother her. They can't delete her from any other privileges for being authentic. Dolts.
Closed, it sounds as if your family are all in the cult and you have too much invested to leave it. That's not too much different than many here. I think the difference is you may not have experienced some of the things others have which make them aggressive, ie: family being cruel, blood sacrifice of children or family or financial ruin because of some criminal "brother". Worst of all you haven't experienced the sexual abuse of your child or self by "the most loving people on earth". I don't know though, 20 years is a long time not to be screwed by some loving brother. Its your choice and it sounds as if you won't take any BS from these guys. Without any intellectual tie to the doctrines of the WT you will eventually drop out I am sure. Stay safe and don't bleed to death!
hello, this is my first post, i would like to introduce myself and say thank you to every one on this forum, you have been a lifeline to me these last few years.. i had been a jw for 30 years when i walked away a few years ago disgusted by the treatment victims of child abuse, domestic abuse and rape receive from the wtbts.. at first i thought it was a local problem, elders personal opinions, the way they handled the situations, imperfect men etc., until i checked out jehovahs witnesses and child abuse/domestic abuse online.
that's when i realized they had the same modus operandi worldwide.
that led me here, tbuo this forum, and then to crisis of conscience, jw facts, watchtower documents, jw survey, old watchtower literature and cd s, reading a couple of steve hassans books, and more recently exiting the jw cult.. the feelings of shock, betrayal, anger at the wtbts, angry with myself for being so gullible, depression, reflection, loneliness, have taken their toll.
Dumb I know but what the heck. Very pleased for you and looking forward to your sharing more info that others will benefit from. Don't be so hard on yourself. We were told to be like children when we studied because children are humble. Well, we know what they allow to happen to children. Its no wonder they abused us spiritually.
hello people.. i'm tired and a bit sick at the moment but i can't let anyone think that this is going to go away.... i am able to tell you a few things in order to prevent any confusion in the minds of those who are thinking that nothing will come of this arc;that nothing will effect the wtbts in america and other places.. i have been there and given my testimony.
helen milroy and her assistants were there along with another group of people who are there to lend assistance if you crack up at any time during or after the hearing.
i did not crack up but can see how this happens.. security is tight and anonymity is sacred to them as they want to protect all who come forward.
You must be compensated for the help you have sought and any future counseling obviously needed as this all heats up. Strength and determination to you in your fight. Though its not your motive I hope you get a wad of cash.
the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.
upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.
again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.
How dare you expose the human condition! I don't know if a heretic like you can be tolerated. Perhaps we should Deforumship you! Everyone joining is an unknown and once they become an opinion expressed someone is always going to take an opposite opinion to task. I think its more a matter of you can't love everyone and everyone has an opinion. After all, it is the internet. Don't let it get you down T. I've been around a number of years and they like me, they really like me!